Curse

dont feel no pain · Mar 19, 2006, 04:48 PM // 16:48

oh god, im sick of idiots calling me a total noob just whenever i play w/mo (i do change my second proffesion constaly but 1/2 of my builds are w/mo)

i get so anoyyed , i was bored so i was going for some avicara farming , i left grainite cidital solo as my w/mo with my avicara build and this guy just pm's me

jerk> Hey sorry to say but nooby w/mo's cant farm IDS hahahahaha

me> im not ids farming, im going aviacara farming

jerk> hahahah noob get your mending in gear

me> O_O

OK NOT ALL W/MO'S ARE IDIOTS , YES THERE ARE A FEW, and most anoyying thing of all , ABOUT 1 of my builds has mending

, out of like 20 , i use my w/mo sometimes as just a utility

*balthzars spirit (energy managment)
*eccence bond (same)

and in random arenas i hardly ever use a w/mo , and if i do its always pure warrior with succor for a monk , or life bond for a monk

breaks the heart to see a premade paladin run around in the areas claiming he owns the world

anyone else get problems when playing as w/mo (and you know what your doing)

I've just been shouted at in the middle of no where "OI wammo you noob!" , i been pm'd stuff tooo

Haggard · Mar 19, 2006, 04:52 PM // 16:52

i'd like to think of myself as a good wammo, i usually simply go pure warrior and the /mo is for res, its just the people who think that warriors > all other classes give us a bad name

dont feel no pain · Mar 19, 2006, 04:54 PM // 16:54

yeah its just grrr!!!!!!

Sirkaze · Mar 19, 2006, 04:57 PM // 16:57

Warrior/monk is the best for farming but for pvp no. Im a warrior/monk nothing wrong with it but you got jerks online who know nothing about builds(warrior/monk for Troll farming,etten farming,FOW,UW its so universal and IDS farming is easily done with it.

Ohh that jerk say's warrior/monks cant do IDS he's wrong many monk spells help more in farming than attack spell's isnt Holy Veil surposed to be good?

Dahnel · Mar 19, 2006, 05:01 PM // 17:01

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Originally Posted by dont feel no pain

YES THERE ARE A FEW

Understatment of the year,

But being a warrior myself i refuse to play w/mo unless i really, really, really have to . My favs are w/n and w/me , and yes warrior monks have gotten a very bad name because of the legions of idiots that seem to think that /mo is the only way to augment yourself as a warrior.

Asprah · Mar 19, 2006, 05:02 PM // 17:02

I think Wamos have bad reputation bcs they were used by lots of noobs in PVP. I agree that they are prolly best warrior farmers in pve and not bad tanks-but in pvp they suck.

Autumn_Leaf · Mar 19, 2006, 05:07 PM // 17:07

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Originally Posted by Dahnel

But being a warrior myself i refuse to play w/mo unless i really, really, really have to .

well i'll play whatever suits the situation. i refuse to not play a proffesion due to steriotypes.

Linda Heartilly · Mar 19, 2006, 05:07 PM // 17:07

It is indeed a pain that people are generalizing.
Yes, there are many noobs out there and yes a lot of them have a W/Mo but hardly any more than any of the other professions.

The thing with a warrior is that it's easily noticed if they act stupid because they're in the front like taking the hits, so if they make a wrong move they're dead.
If for example an elementalist makes a wrong move... or does this all the time because he doesn't have a clue to play, but just got to the point where he's at with his eBay gold this is hardly noticed.
The only difference you could see is it takes a bit longer to kill the enemy, cause the ele doesn't do any damage.
I think it's mainly for this reason that W/Mo's are more often considered noobs than any others.

FalconDance · Mar 19, 2006, 05:10 PM // 17:10

I've noticed it seems as if wammos tend to be the ones who run headlong into the next battle regardless of the casters/monks toggling low on energy. All I can figure is since they have Mending on themselves and they believe themselves to be the be-all and end-all of the game anyhow, they think they won't need healing and so a monk's energy level is unimportant?

Not all, by any means, but a goodly number (especially at under level 20).

Husband plays his wammo quite nicely. He equips a heal skill and resurrect and the rest damage. He tries (and usually succeeds) to control the aggro and lets the casters do their job of softening the foes up for his killing blows.

Bob912 · Mar 19, 2006, 05:13 PM // 17:13

i play a w/mo and i have to stand in a mission spamming LFG 4 like 10-15 min b4 i finally get a grp
it rly annoying that ppl think an entire profession r noobs. iv read everywhere that there is no right or wrong profession combos, so y must ppl be prejudiced against us?

Sirkaze · Mar 19, 2006, 05:14 PM // 17:14

Warrior/monk for farming nothing else...

Tainek · Mar 19, 2006, 05:18 PM // 17:18

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Originally Posted by Sirkaze

Warrior/monk for farming nothing else...

I disagree, Conditions and hex's are most scary to a Warrior, and no class can purge better than a monk

Autumn_Leaf · Mar 19, 2006, 05:21 PM // 17:21

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Originally Posted by Sirkaze

Warrior/monk for farming nothing else...

HATE CRIME!!!!

Linda Heartilly · Mar 19, 2006, 05:23 PM // 17:23

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Originally Posted by FalconDance

I've noticed it seems as if wammos tend to be the ones who run headlong into the next battle regardless of the casters/monks toggling low on energy. All I can figure is since they have Mending on themselves and they believe themselves to be the be-all and end-all of the game anyhow, they think they won't need healing and so a monk's energy level is unimportant?

Not quite, it's a form of tunnelvision rather.

The warrior is always in the frontline, the rest of the team behind him, he's up close with the enemy.
Also, most warriors require little to no energy at all, they're task is to kill whatever enemies there are as quick as they can so those can do as little damage as possible in which they are often assisted by damage from some casters.

In result of their focus, they tend to lose their view on the bigger picture which they're a part of thus forgetting about the monk and his/her energy.

An exmaple of this: I found myself doing a similar thing in PvP, I was always a caster first.
As a caster you stand in the back, you got a total picture, you see everything, your team, their team, you see people dying etc...
Then I started playing a warrior and in many cases these things that are all a part of the bigger picture - which you all saw as a caster - now take place behind you.
Sometimes, I would be so focussed on killing my target I didn't notice my team getting killed.
At one point I was just like: "Damm, they're all dead and I still had my Res Sig unused".

Having said this the warrior is for sure the class, followed by the ranger where this one will most easily find himself in such a position, however some people can also handle this problem of so called 'tunnelvision' easier than others by nature.

The Renegade Healer · Mar 19, 2006, 05:26 PM // 17:26

I occasionaly run W/Mo in randoms for knockdown and holy strike. Call me a noob now, but holy strike does quite a bit of damage. Also, lifebond and scrouge healing is a good idea, and mend condition to remove blind is definatly worth it. <rant>Jeez wammos, take off mending and put on mend (edit - ailment) instead, so you could stop bugging us monks to remove blind, do it yourself. I've only seen one wammo do this, ever, and he was calling me a noob for kiting.</rant>

Autumn_Leaf · Mar 19, 2006, 05:29 PM // 17:29

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Originally Posted by Linda Heartilly

Not quite, it's a form of tunnelvision rather.

The warrior is always in the frontline, the rest of the team behind him, he's up close with the enemy.
nature.

Lmao. so true. being a warrior your constantly in the midst of battle and can't get distrcted by the exchanging of blows. we just happen not to see the slaughter of teamates behind us.

Ajantis · Mar 19, 2006, 05:31 PM // 17:31

mend condition does not work on yourself

Autumn_Leaf · Mar 19, 2006, 05:36 PM // 17:36

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Originally Posted by Ajantis

mend condition does not work on yourself

o snap it doesn't

Tigers Anger · Mar 19, 2006, 05:42 PM // 17:42

dont feel no pain loved to run W/Mo in GvG while in the Master Casters but we stopped him thus he made a thread complaining about it.

Anyway back on topic, Whammos are awesome farmers, but the problem is that everyone thinks they can farm, or tries to be a self-preserving warrior like everyone else but they don't understand that you can have the build, the skills and the gear but you don't have the experience or the skill. You have to work for that.

The generalisation that a legion of W/Mo's is trying to do all missions in game and dying on the first group with 2 monks is bad for the average W/Mo player and if there was any real challenge in any of the early missions in the game, we'd have a lot less 'n00b' whammos.

Tunnel vision can be avoided as long as you keep one eye on Party window all the time :P

Also mend condition can't remove blind from yourself, mend ailment can.

BTW, I do have a whammo. I use him for farming, running and soloing. I have been called a noob many times when I go on missions with PUGs saying that i am using the wrong weapon, or wrong skills. I have met many whammos who are, unmistakably noobish and complete idiots at this game. Does that make every whammo a noob? Well, most of them but not every :P

Cottage Pie · Mar 19, 2006, 05:56 PM // 17:56

I played a 'premade paladin' for alot of matches, and they are great, for faction farming and casual PvP. A team of 4 of them in team arenas can yield hilarious results...I.E. lots of wins.